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vandenberg interview in February of 2016

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a man claiming he worked for some secret

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government agency contacted me this

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agency allegedly monitors and

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investigates paranormal activity because

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I'm contacted someone regularly by

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people with similar claims I wasn't

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putting too much talk of the man's story

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but I finally agreed to meet with him

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when he informed me that he was dying

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and he wanted to give his deathbed

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testimony as we put it before he died I

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refer to this man is Walter it's not his

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real name of course he asked me to meet

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him at a budget motel just outside of

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Phoenix he was staying there for a few

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days because he was in town to attend a

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UFO conference that was taking place

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nearby I had considered checking out the

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UFO calm anyway so I agreed to meet

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Walter

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it took me a good 45 minutes to reach

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the motel from my office in downtown

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Phoenix when I pulled into the parking

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lot I regretted my decision to meet with

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this guy this cheap dump was yours

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stereotypical rundown bargain motel the

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sign was faded and I thing to recall was

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missing a letter maybe 20 weeds were

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growing out of the cracks in the parking

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lot and the concrete path leading to the

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office bars covered the office windows

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and I could see what I assume was a

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homeless man enjoying a refreshing bath

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in the pool I pulled out my phone and

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tending to call Walter to cancel our

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meeting but as I watched the homeless

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man bathing in the dingy motel pool I

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laugh to myself and put my phone back in

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my pocket I had already made the trip

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and the setting alone was already great

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material for a story I remember standing

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outside room number nine questioning my

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judgment and wondering why I always put

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myself in situations like that meeting

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random weirdos by myself I think a full

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minute passed before I finally knocked

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the door open slowly before I even saw

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Walter I was greeted by the unpleasant

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smell of the stale aged room saturated

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by decades of cigarettes sex and

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unsanitary guests preserved by subpar

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housekeeping as the door fully open my

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gaze shifted down to see a sad frail man

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in a wheelchair

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I introduced myself and Walter invited

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me in Walter wasn't what I was expecting

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I'm not sure what I was expecting he was

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in his 60s well-dressed soft-spoken and

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he had a kind face he invited me to make

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myself comfortable that was a tall order

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given that awful smell and the

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unsanitary conditions the room was small

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and void of any sitting options but he

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motioned to the bed so I SAT awkwardly

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on the corner of the unmade bed and

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pulled out my phone to record the

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interview you're okay with me recording

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this right that's why I contacted you

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and that's why you're here okay

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absolutely I just wanted to make sure

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well I guess go ahead and start then

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we're recording what I'm about to tell

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you has never been heard by anyone

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outside select government agencies

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can't be secrets for nearly 40 years

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locked away from friends family everyone

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most of my life has been a deep dark

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secret that I swore under penalty of

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death that I would take to my grave so

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why do it I mean you would tell this

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information from everybody in your life

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for this long why come forward now

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especially knowing that you're putting

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haven't had friends for a long time the

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last of my family recently passed on and

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I'm on my way to the grave my secret

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life living with the burden of what i

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know it cost me everything

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the things I know the things I've seen

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you probably won't believe me when I

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tell you

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the public should know these things that

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I know I've lived with his burden too

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long you said you're on your way to the

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grave you're dying the doctor tells me

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I'll be dead and gone in a matter of

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months so I'm no longer restricted by

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the fear of what they will do to me for

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disclosing that time we held sequence I

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don't know if you want to talk about it

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but why why doctors they make us go to

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tell me it's cancer who knows it might

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be cancer but they're always vague on

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specifics and I've been trained to know

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better than to question what they say or

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probe for any detail we might talk about

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that some more later but we should

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probably start so I guess go ahead and

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get into it tell me about Vandenberg the

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Truman administration established an

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initiative in 1952 to deal with issues

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related to paranormal phenomena a

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special index was activated as part of

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this initiative to catalog relevant

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communication and in some situations

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conduct field investigations to acquire

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additional information

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this index is known as the Vandenberg

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index and it's still active today a

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clandestine government agency manages

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the index if agents perform surveillance

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monitoring everything from letters and

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email messages to phone conversations

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and text messages communications fitting

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agency criteria is tagged and entered

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into the index system and as I mentioned

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agents also participate in field

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investigation if a case narrative all

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right I'm sure you know that there are

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always people making extraordinary

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claims of conspiracies and secret

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government dealings with paranormal

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activity I'm not saying that i don't

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believe you but do you have anything to

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substantiate what you're claiming you

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can read this would you like what is it

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it's a letter from the last case I

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worked on before I was forced to retire

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from the agency go on for you all right

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let's see

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looks like an email address to a UFO

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organization I've been experiencing

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alien influences for the past three

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years these entities control my thoughts

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and they talk to me telepathic later

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they've used at least three different

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voices when they talk to me but most of

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the time they talk to me with my own

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voice I know it sounds crazy but I'm not

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crazy I'm an intelligent

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college-educated ordinary guy I married

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and have three children but they don't

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believe me they look at me like I've

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lost my mind believe me I thought about

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that but I know I'm not crazy I know the

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difference between fantasy and reality

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and I know that the voice and the

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thoughts in my head aren't mine and I

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know who is putting them there I've seen

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UFO since I was 6 years old I remember

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waking up at night looking out my window

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and seeing UFOs parked over our house I

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don't know what they were doing but they

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just SAT there like they were watching

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our house or waiting for something I

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still see UFOs over my house at night

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but I started seeing flashes of light

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outside the windows I think they started

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watching me from the ground to three

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years ago I was in an elevator at work

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two of my co-workers got on the elevator

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with me I worked with these two for many

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years but that day on the elevator they

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both looked at me and they had strange

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looks on their faces it's like they

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weren't themselves and they heard both

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of their voices in my head at the same

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time they were laughing at me and

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telling me how everyone at work hated me

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and that I should jump out the window

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they torment me inside my head saying

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all sorts of terrible things and filling

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my mind with the darkest thoughts all my

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friends have abandoned me and I'm sure

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my family will soon too they think I'm

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I didn't know what to do so I contacted

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a local paranormal investigation group

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the group met me at my house in January

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to help me understand that the people

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who are controlling my thoughts are

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really bad shape-shifting aliens who can

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take on any form they want they scanned

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me and told me they detected an implant

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in me because their instruments shows

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that there's something inside me giving

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off signals they explained that this is

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how the aliens are able to control my

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thoughts the paranormal group suggested

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that I submit a report to you and they

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said you would probably be able to tell

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me who I can contact to get the implant

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removed please help me my life is a

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living hell I can't take the mental and

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physical exhaustion from these mind

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attacks much longer ok this is mildly

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interesting but you know this guy sounds

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completely crazy right the subject was

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added to the agency's surveillance list

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shortly after the interception of this

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email yes cautious mental health is in

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question but we did confirm UFO activity

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over his residence and the agency

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continues to monitor him as a subject of

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interest

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this is just one example of the type of

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content be collected and investigated on

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a daily basis do you have any other

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files that might have anything more I

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don't know or interesting or anything to

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really back up your claim that

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Vandenberg even exist for those who

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recorded okay sure Walter being the

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gentle soft-spoken man he was kindly

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suggested that I just forget about

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publishing his testimony because he felt

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that my questions hinted at disbelief

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although his assumption was correct if

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he had truly been a secret government

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investigator he more than most should

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have understood the need for evidence to

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support a claim especially a hard to

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believe claim I think the first time and

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told him to contact me if he changed his

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mind because I really did want to probe

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his claims more if he had something more

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than another run-of-the-mill story about

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a paranoid guy claiming alien spoke to

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him you damn right I would publish that

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but I never did hear from Walter after

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our meeting I have no idea if anything

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he told me was true the likelihood of it

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we some of it being true improved when a

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couple weeks later I received an

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envelope in the mail with no return

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address inside was Walters obituary cut

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out from the Tulsa World newspaper

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apparently Walter was originally from

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Tulsa and according to the obituary he

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just died a few days prior to my

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receiving the mysterious mail it listed

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his cause of death as natural causes

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needless to say receiving this freaked

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me out a little nobody knew about my

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meeting with Walter except for my two

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colleagues at reductive I still don't

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know what to make of Walter's claim I

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really wish he would have provided me

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with something more concrete but the

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Vandenberg index is definitely something

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that's on my radar now but I'm pretty

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doubtful that will find anything or hear

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anything more about it